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For example,air max pas cher, one of the edits being suggested for the biology article is a short definition of microbiology that includes a description of microbiology as encompasing the study of viruses and immunology. I have stated this, I know that you - on other pages- have stated this also and still there is great concern that it is not being immediately incorporated into the biology article. I think having editions of approved articles that take a couple of months,air max pas cher, at minimum,air max pas cher, are to be expected until we work over the rough ground of the majority of our articles. Otherwise our time is spent arguing over minor points in articles we can feel are "OK", and no progress will be made. That just my opinion,air max pas cher, if you -and/or others- want to change the biology article and approve the new version,air max pas cher, please do so. I think that the way to go (more or less as you suggest) For various reasons I would prefer that it not be me on this one, but Im willing to do my share elsewhere.
Perhaps in February I may be able to start takinging WP MOS pages into CZ live and start editing them to our needs. (Based on the comments on the bio talk page we do need to standardize abbreviations very soon.) And if there is nobody better, I do my share of copyediting.
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The only reason I started this was because microbiology was not listed. I knew it would be somewhat controversial to add immunology as a subgroup of microbiology (even though this is a response to microorganisms - which is part of at least one definition of microbiology, especially medical microbiology). However, I didn foresee virology being quite as controversial as it is. I don think the argument should be are viruses alive or not,air max pas cher, but I do feel that they should be included with microbiology. We don even need to list them in the biology article,air max pas cher, but we DO need a microbiology link somewhere in the list..

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